1 00:00:05,90 --> 00:00:09,23 OK Well thank you what's been the friendliest for. 2 00:00:12,93 --> 00:00:13,09 Your. 3 00:00:22,61 --> 00:00:28,80 Alley cars during this trip John thank you for. Taking over and just beating us. 4 00:00:32,76 --> 00:00:37,54 So. When we get started on our call that should lead to provide 5 00:00:37,55 --> 00:00:40,89 a reading governing board in the bombing field modified in your school district. 6 00:00:42,06 --> 00:00:46,60 School board meeting for December fifth twenty sixteen that's being held the priest 7 00:00:46,61 --> 00:00:53,46 appears for more oil spill and in honey then order. We also with the 8 00:00:53,47 --> 00:00:59,73 agenda but have any questions comments. OK. 9 00:01:02,56 --> 00:01:07,67 So I did what was the tour group to pierce the moral school facility and our second 10 00:01:07,74 --> 00:01:11,64 item on the agenda. Community comments. 11 00:01:14,33 --> 00:01:20,78 Hearing and seeing. Pretty soon we will move right 12 00:01:21,23 --> 00:01:27,43 to the. Precipice report and Johnny he said you're going to just throw the reader 13 00:01:27,44 --> 00:01:31,53 Lee Lee was sorry she could make it tonight it was an unavoidable conflict with 14 00:01:31,60 --> 00:01:36,95 something that she had scheduled couldn't couldn't get. She asked me to mention 15 00:01:36,96 --> 00:01:42,17 a couple of things one of the outdoor education program that they have going on it 16 00:01:42,64 --> 00:01:47,22 started last year in pay of course Fridays where the kindergarten went outside and 17 00:01:47,23 --> 00:01:53,99 did literacy science and social studies outside outdoor Vironment 18 00:01:54,23 --> 00:02:00,07 use some of the tools some of the opportunities that are outside to reinforce the 19 00:02:00,08 --> 00:02:06,93 skills and concepts that we want students to learn and it's grown on being 20 00:02:06,94 --> 00:02:13,77 integrated in grades one through four as well you can see it outside but there's 21 00:02:13,78 --> 00:02:18,97 a new out who were learning. Structure last year it was 22 00:02:18,98 --> 00:02:23,63 a lean to really that was out the back of the school this trail and this year 23 00:02:23,64 --> 00:02:24,65 through Brianne So in 24 00:02:24,66 --> 00:02:31,22 a lot of community support volunteers they have this really nice outdoor structure 25 00:02:31,67 --> 00:02:33,75 that they can use for Greece K. 26 00:02:33,76 --> 00:02:39,68 Through four to learn outside and access one of the greatest assets that we have 27 00:02:39,78 --> 00:02:45,63 a lot which is our outside. So your offer to. Get 28 00:02:45,64 --> 00:02:47,11 a chance in the daylight take 29 00:02:47,12 --> 00:02:50,34 a look at it it's really quick call it supposed to be 30 00:02:50,39 --> 00:02:57,02 a structure. I think create some excellent opportunities for for students and 31 00:02:57,03 --> 00:03:02,63 staff and the whole community to access it over the next several years. 32 00:03:04,09 --> 00:03:07,56 So she also wanted me to mention that there was 33 00:03:07,57 --> 00:03:14,28 a bond for geothermal. Geale three will keep pump 34 00:03:14,29 --> 00:03:20,83 technology on and that is going to be the. Projects going to take place this summer 35 00:03:20,83 --> 00:03:27,78 . And in my super intense report in November I shared the flyer with you 36 00:03:28,25 --> 00:03:29,60 which describes what 37 00:03:29,61 --> 00:03:35,23 a closed loop system looks like and what some of the advantages are of it and how 38 00:03:35,56 --> 00:03:42,07 really you're taking either the heat or cooling from the ground and transferring it 39 00:03:42,08 --> 00:03:49,01 into the building that's that's the overall concept of the of the system so that 40 00:03:49,42 --> 00:03:52,97 there they have a committee right now 41 00:03:52,98 --> 00:03:57,13 a school based community that is looking at specifications working with the 42 00:03:57,14 --> 00:04:03,74 engineer and they will go out to bid for the project really in January and 43 00:04:03,75 --> 00:04:10,60 hopefully in the plan is to start the project to have it done by wind schools 44 00:04:11,60 --> 00:04:18,53 or so couple other just pieces about the system that does offer cooling as well as 45 00:04:18,54 --> 00:04:24,79 heating and that the system is is has dehumidification 46 00:04:25,33 --> 00:04:32,19 so with months of summer this school will be relatively dry will be dry 47 00:04:32,99 --> 00:04:37,75 least that's the plan. So it's exciting and it's a big project that took 48 00:04:37,76 --> 00:04:42,26 a number of years and we're looking forward to seeing what the result. 49 00:04:45,55 --> 00:04:50,90 That's what tell what share. And share would you like. 50 00:04:55,05 --> 00:05:01,11 For. Christmas Day to be in the system with the big project for the year. 51 00:05:03,04 --> 00:05:07,08 And then for Friday the structure as there are there I think there's some pictures 52 00:05:07,09 --> 00:05:13,81 on my fantastic structure that. People pretty heavy. Solid opossum being 53 00:05:14,20 --> 00:05:16,69 beautiful. And there's 54 00:05:16,70 --> 00:05:27,31 a lot of community volunteer. Effort in there. Just 55 00:05:27,40 --> 00:05:32,93 like the mom like everybody else OK thank you thank you John together for the World 56 00:05:32,94 --> 00:05:39,81 Cup that so. Sorry next item on the 57 00:05:39,82 --> 00:05:46,55 agenda student representative report. For the i said if you want to hear whether. 58 00:05:48,15 --> 00:05:55,13 The awful grades the two. Words 59 00:05:55,14 --> 00:05:59,72 share with you'd like to live with. So have runs 60 00:05:59,73 --> 00:06:06,69 a very middle school and it comes from there Cochran has joy I was offered 61 00:06:07,29 --> 00:06:13,40 a ski school after school program so students can sign up and go to. 62 00:06:14,78 --> 00:06:20,55 Ski Area our loss and I mean our scheme and then the bomb program is also starting 63 00:06:20,88 --> 00:06:27,75 and as you know. And then runs over there starting to redefine some of training 64 00:06:27,76 --> 00:06:32,43 her in general lying to Congress the library after school and read for an hour to 65 00:06:32,47 --> 00:06:39,19 our house and sacked by. And then 66 00:06:39,20 --> 00:06:45,17 view the fall of theatre show was death in the city and I went really well I don't 67 00:06:45,18 --> 00:06:49,86 know if anyone saw but it was very well put together and really funny and the next 68 00:06:49,87 --> 00:06:52,07 play was announced it's the musical spam 69 00:06:52,08 --> 00:06:55,97 a lot and it's going to happen in the spring but he said about not only finding. 70 00:06:57,52 --> 00:07:02,57 The winter sports have started so. You know everyone's little bit so are there some 71 00:07:02,58 --> 00:07:04,63 I don't know I think skiers might hock you started 72 00:07:04,64 --> 00:07:09,26 a few weeks ago are all just getting used to. Sports again. 73 00:07:12,70 --> 00:07:16,80 International Club went to Montreal last Friday and we brought 74 00:07:16,81 --> 00:07:21,06 a bunch of. Exchange students there which was kind of interesting it was really fun 75 00:07:22,04 --> 00:07:22,76 and then just 76 00:07:22,77 --> 00:07:27,73 a fun thing like something that I find really cool we have I mean we have 77 00:07:27,74 --> 00:07:32,62 a club called the refugee outreach club and this Saturday so they have like they've 78 00:07:32,63 --> 00:07:35,84 been hosting a winter clothing food clothing drive not 79 00:07:35,88 --> 00:07:41,10 a food drive underclothing drive and they've gotten like. Insane amount of clothes 80 00:07:41,11 --> 00:07:45,66 like it's awesome like Lauren Haggerty brings in my arm loads of stuff like from 81 00:07:45,67 --> 00:07:49,79 the lobby every day and like Mr Knox's room we should get really pile it up there 82 00:07:49,80 --> 00:07:54,37 is just really great to see like I mean you community like bringing the cold winter 83 00:07:54,38 --> 00:07:59,54 coat snow pants and boots you have to go out and stuff but this Saturday they're 84 00:07:59,55 --> 00:08:04,42 actually having like this lunch thing in the library I mean you and there are 85 00:08:04,43 --> 00:08:09,82 inviting this man who is I was originally from Sudan and he works as like 86 00:08:09,83 --> 00:08:16,32 a business person in Burlington and he is coming in and talking about his like 87 00:08:16,33 --> 00:08:17,93 Journey to America as like 88 00:08:18,25 --> 00:08:24,36 a refugee I'm. Going to be catered by Ethiopian women so there's going to be like 89 00:08:24,93 --> 00:08:31,67 really cool food. I think I might go but just something that's happened. And one 90 00:08:31,68 --> 00:08:37,75 more day I'll see you sorry but it should be. Paired with our athletic director 91 00:08:37,85 --> 00:08:39,11 David Milo made 92 00:08:39,12 --> 00:08:45,19 a fan out so you can download the app and then you can sign it and. There's 93 00:08:45,20 --> 00:08:49,91 a geotagged reach locations for the sports fields and nice friends and about sports 94 00:08:50,20 --> 00:08:52,30 and if you go to an away game or if you go to 95 00:08:52,54 --> 00:08:57,07 a new site and they do you attack and you get points and the points add up to 96 00:08:57,08 --> 00:09:02,20 reward so you go to five home games or just five points each I think we had twenty 97 00:09:02,21 --> 00:09:03,08 five points that's like 98 00:09:03,09 --> 00:09:08,49 a free hat. And so are coming up with all these different we're trying to get. 99 00:09:10,31 --> 00:09:14,71 Sort of like you discount ever trying to get sponsors for the app so we're asking 100 00:09:14,72 --> 00:09:19,27 for the country store and stuff like chocolates and other places to sponsor her ad 101 00:09:19,44 --> 00:09:25,25 and then give us for boards for the rights to some Or they say well. So if you guys 102 00:09:25,66 --> 00:09:29,52 ever want to come in the game and done with the cougar nation. 103 00:09:36,31 --> 00:09:36,47 That's 104 00:09:36,48 --> 00:09:49,00 a really good. Question for students. That 105 00:09:49,01 --> 00:09:55,66 anything at all on their agenda. I do whatever certainly. 106 00:10:00,28 --> 00:10:04,79 That. You have any input on. 107 00:10:08,29 --> 00:10:13,06 Looking at again I'm sure that. That's what. 108 00:10:17,07 --> 00:10:21,26 Perry thanks. Next item is there 109 00:10:21,87 --> 00:10:27,27 a compliance report. To point to treatment of staff. 110 00:10:31,06 --> 00:10:32,61 At this time often attain 111 00:10:32,62 --> 00:10:37,01 a motion to approve the monitoring reported to the Senate. 112 00:10:39,80 --> 00:10:45,88 We're going to have discussions from last second. And. No 113 00:10:46,29 --> 00:10:49,84 discussion on this done you want to run us through 114 00:10:49,85 --> 00:10:56,64 a better chair so for me. To put together 115 00:10:56,65 --> 00:11:03,22 this report based on the data that we've collected over the last several years as 116 00:11:03,23 --> 00:11:09,80 a state in the beginning believe. Based on the interpretations that I presented it 117 00:11:10,38 --> 00:11:17,24 and the policies that we are in the points with all of the polls there 118 00:11:17,51 --> 00:11:24,08 in the report and what I attempted to do is to provide as much evidence 119 00:11:24,52 --> 00:11:31,26 is I can along with some details of what we're doing here and some of our 120 00:11:31,30 --> 00:11:37,95 future play so I can walk through it step by step we're certainly 121 00:11:38,09 --> 00:11:42,43 welcome. Many questions folks have. Pieces of it. 122 00:11:46,06 --> 00:11:48,19 The kid did spend 123 00:11:48,20 --> 00:11:53,82 a good chunk of time really thinking about it and looking at the systems that we 124 00:11:53,83 --> 00:11:58,70 currently have in place and then connecting them with action just through taking 125 00:11:59,33 --> 00:12:05,80 you know really over the last seven eight years. So the first section 126 00:12:06,61 --> 00:12:12,27 that I just walk folks through don't want to bore anybody the. First section. 127 00:12:13,29 --> 00:12:19,29 Really look set making sure that we have written guidelines procedures policies 128 00:12:19,30 --> 00:12:25,73 protocols that. Are keep the students 129 00:12:25,77 --> 00:12:31,92 staff in the district safe against wrongful working conditions which is essentially 130 00:12:31,93 --> 00:12:38,45 is that you have an environment where there could be unlawful termination 131 00:12:39,14 --> 00:12:45,12 or an environment where people don't know what the rules in the regulations are so 132 00:12:45,13 --> 00:12:50,81 what I detailed is what we've done over the last several years has to go through 133 00:12:50,82 --> 00:12:57,13 all of our job descriptions and I said that's majority of employees really 134 00:12:57,71 --> 00:13:01,97 it's almost everyone but there could be one or two employees that have 135 00:13:01,98 --> 00:13:03,63 a job title that we do not have 136 00:13:03,64 --> 00:13:08,67 a job description for but the vast majority of our employees do have 137 00:13:08,68 --> 00:13:13,58 a job description we're currently updating those job descriptions and that's 138 00:13:13,59 --> 00:13:16,46 a project that Rebecca T.-Bo our H.R. 139 00:13:16,47 --> 00:13:21,88 Director is taking on we're reviewing those and making some updates to those as 140 00:13:21,89 --> 00:13:22,32 needed 141 00:13:22,89 --> 00:13:28,53 a lot of this work came from an assessment that we did in eleven two thousand and 142 00:13:28,54 --> 00:13:34,36 eleven two thousand and twelve where we had an organization and some H.R. 143 00:13:34,37 --> 00:13:35,60 Specialists from H.R. 144 00:13:35,61 --> 00:13:38,02 Century which came in and did 145 00:13:38,03 --> 00:13:43,94 a complete review of what we had in place and gave us some recommendations of where 146 00:13:43,95 --> 00:13:50,57 we're doing well in some things that we needed to change so I outlined some of that 147 00:13:51,20 --> 00:13:57,68 in the evidence and then I also provided some evidence or examples of what 148 00:13:58,33 --> 00:14:05,23 the actual product and results were. Then I also talked about when 149 00:14:05,24 --> 00:14:09,38 I think one of the best efforts that we ever took which was to hire an H.R. 150 00:14:09,39 --> 00:14:15,70 Director now it's only fifty sixty percent. So that's it's not full time. 151 00:14:16,75 --> 00:14:22,54 But it is more than we had in two thousand and eleven we didn't have any H.R. 152 00:14:22,55 --> 00:14:27,14 Director sensually we say or shared those responsibilities and one of the rejected 153 00:14:27,36 --> 00:14:31,70 recommendations from the assessment is you we really needed to hire an H.R. 154 00:14:31,71 --> 00:14:33,65 Director which we have since done 155 00:14:33,66 --> 00:14:39,02 a part time person the first person that we hired to Cindy Mack and if you know 156 00:14:39,03 --> 00:14:44,57 Cindy Cindy was a teacher but she was also a principal so she had quite a bit of 157 00:14:44,58 --> 00:14:45,93 a teacher experience as 158 00:14:45,94 --> 00:14:50,07 a principal and then she was also an attorney so she really brought 159 00:14:50,08 --> 00:14:56,53 a different lens to our organization around. The legal side of 160 00:14:56,59 --> 00:14:57,91 H.R. Which is there's 161 00:14:57,92 --> 00:15:02,72 a considerable amount anybody that has had experience with that and 162 00:15:02,73 --> 00:15:09,40 a lot of her legal study was around labor law. And creating systems that are legal 163 00:15:09,53 --> 00:15:15,69 and that protect. The employees the constituents in the organization. 164 00:15:17,20 --> 00:15:23,70 In general and then. Cindy retired at the end of last year and we 165 00:15:23,71 --> 00:15:29,50 hired Rebecca T.-Bo very fortunate to have found her Rebecca has an M.B.A. 166 00:15:29,51 --> 00:15:35,21 From me at the University of Iowa and had administrative age our experience both at 167 00:15:35,22 --> 00:15:36,05 I.B.M. 168 00:15:36,65 --> 00:15:42,19 And the City Market which is an organization city America that have if you know 169 00:15:42,20 --> 00:15:49,07 about it it's grown tremendously over the last decade. I mention that because 170 00:15:49,08 --> 00:15:54,47 they they are they brought an analysis and 171 00:15:54,48 --> 00:15:59,37 a perspective that we've incorporated into our protocols into it and into our 172 00:15:59,55 --> 00:16:05,92 procedures. In addition to that reviewed allies the resources from 173 00:16:06,60 --> 00:16:13,27 the multi-line program which is. A subset of this bet to 174 00:16:13,28 --> 00:16:18,80 remind Insurance Trust and they have something called 175 00:16:18,81 --> 00:16:23,23 a chair three sixty which is just that wealth of information that we've used that 176 00:16:23,24 --> 00:16:29,77 is attorney reviewed and and really focuses on compliance that we've used 177 00:16:30,12 --> 00:16:34,29 really in all the essential elements of our H.R. 178 00:16:34,30 --> 00:16:41,28 And personnel functions. Then I won't get into all of this but talked about some of 179 00:16:41,29 --> 00:16:46,10 the actual harassment students that we've had but the results of those have been. 180 00:16:47,16 --> 00:16:53,88 The fact we have had no. Unlawful termination lawsuits really no 181 00:16:53,89 --> 00:16:59,16 personnel lawsuits over the past four years focused on pork for years because 182 00:16:59,46 --> 00:17:02,15 that's when we that's the time line for our H.R. 183 00:17:02,16 --> 00:17:07,91 Director in addition to that we've had no grievances we've been able to resolve all 184 00:17:07,92 --> 00:17:13,80 of our grievances per the contract per the law without having to hire an arbitrator 185 00:17:14,44 --> 00:17:14,78 or 186 00:17:14,79 --> 00:17:20,09 a mediator or really we haven't had to bring those to the board as well we've been 187 00:17:20,10 --> 00:17:24,91 able to resolve those. At the administrative level. 188 00:17:27,14 --> 00:17:30,69 And then I talk a little bit about volunteers we do have 189 00:17:30,70 --> 00:17:36,20 a volunteer policy we also do have school based orientations one of the things I 190 00:17:36,21 --> 00:17:38,54 did recognize as I would like to see as have 191 00:17:38,55 --> 00:17:43,36 a one uniform volunteer handbook and then I would like to see as registering 192 00:17:43,69 --> 00:17:46,12 instead of ask rules volunteers having 193 00:17:46,13 --> 00:17:49,70 a mechanism online to be able to do that and that's something that Rebecca is going 194 00:17:49,71 --> 00:17:56,12 to be working on over the next year or so. So 195 00:17:56,88 --> 00:18:02,25 the next policy is discriminate against any staff members I'm sure. 196 00:18:04,04 --> 00:18:09,92 OK I'm happy I'm not I don't even go into number to get. A quarter of. 197 00:18:11,67 --> 00:18:18,36 A prescience first of all the details and the links you provided in the. Write up 198 00:18:18,37 --> 00:18:19,81 shop is very good just 199 00:18:19,82 --> 00:18:24,95 a couple of comments as we start to learn how to go through this. Curious if others 200 00:18:25,19 --> 00:18:30,27 feel the same way or not about my my remarks here but. The policy itself that we 201 00:18:30,28 --> 00:18:35,61 have your number one is broken into three parts a B. And C. 202 00:18:35,61 --> 00:18:39,69 . And I think I was expecting a B. And C. 203 00:18:39,70 --> 00:18:44,65 To be separately interpreted and evidence kind of broke it out to really 204 00:18:45,03 --> 00:18:47,11 demonstrate that a B. And C. 205 00:18:47,12 --> 00:18:53,95 Are being met independently versus consolidated into one write up I suspect you 206 00:18:53,96 --> 00:18:58,99 have to have been straight at that you know but I'd be easier to read you know if 207 00:18:59,00 --> 00:19:03,12 you go to the extent of breaking them out otherwise we might as well remove a B. 208 00:19:03,13 --> 00:19:03,41 And C. 209 00:19:03,42 --> 00:19:09,45 From the polls so that's still the point of having them there so I'm confused so in 210 00:19:09,46 --> 00:19:14,50 the policy number one is this operate without written proceed personnel rules that 211 00:19:14,60 --> 00:19:20,07 a clarify rules for staff be provided for affectively of grievances and see protect 212 00:19:20,08 --> 00:19:22,94 against wrongful conditions that A.B. And C. 213 00:19:22,94 --> 00:19:29,34 . In that policy feel like they are talking about one to three A.B.C. 214 00:19:29,34 --> 00:19:35,72 . Yes I trade integrate them so I think I would prefer to have others who prefer to 215 00:19:35,73 --> 00:19:36,72 have them called out 216 00:19:37,48 --> 00:19:42,17 a lot of more separately or perhaps we should just remove them from the policy to 217 00:19:42,18 --> 00:19:46,31 keep them together so that they align with how you provide the evidence OK. 218 00:19:49,56 --> 00:19:55,41 Second thing. That. It was keep 219 00:19:56,41 --> 00:20:02,40 various If you had like after writing the evidence report for the first time if you 220 00:20:02,41 --> 00:20:07,14 had any areas where you know knowing how you want to show the evidence of 221 00:20:07,15 --> 00:20:10,69 compliance is there anything you're going to do differently between now and the 222 00:20:10,70 --> 00:20:16,89 next this policy is up for review yet to forty two things one we're. 223 00:20:18,80 --> 00:20:24,64 We're going to do some we have some school based surveys that we're going to be 224 00:20:25,35 --> 00:20:31,93 presenting to staff. To collect some more recent information and 225 00:20:32,77 --> 00:20:39,33 so that's one and then we also have. It really three 226 00:20:39,34 --> 00:20:44,85 sixty sort of feedback loop for principles and some of the elements that are in 227 00:20:44,86 --> 00:20:51,82 this compliance poesy are also in the. Or in 228 00:20:51,83 --> 00:20:57,56 the surveys so that's something that we're going to be advancing. This winter and 229 00:20:57,57 --> 00:21:04,03 in the spring. I think that I think that that information would supplement like 230 00:21:04,04 --> 00:21:06,14 that here well I think we have 231 00:21:06,15 --> 00:21:12,82 a lot. Of large description about policies and walls that we've 232 00:21:12,83 --> 00:21:18,99 developed and you know how we can demonstrate that the policies and the rules and 233 00:21:19,00 --> 00:21:23,39 all the various handbooks and things are are some of the best you know out there 234 00:21:23,98 --> 00:21:29,67 but they're only as good as people read them had understand them and comply with 235 00:21:29,68 --> 00:21:35,20 them and I think having some feedback from them and their staff would help 236 00:21:35,21 --> 00:21:42,13 demonstrate Yeah I could have that also we we may we have. I could have used 237 00:21:42,14 --> 00:21:46,51 a percentage I think it's like ninety percent but it's close to one hundred percent 238 00:21:46,97 --> 00:21:47,46 where we have 239 00:21:47,47 --> 00:21:52,98 a you have to sign off so people have to acknowledge that they've been trained to 240 00:21:52,99 --> 00:21:57,76 go do this and so that's something that I thought of over the weekend that I could 241 00:21:57,77 --> 00:22:02,83 have included we have that data that's close to you know one hundred percent but I 242 00:22:02,84 --> 00:22:07,26 think that would have been would show evidence that people have read it and we have 243 00:22:07,27 --> 00:22:14,07 it in it's timely agreed. But I think the three this survey for 244 00:22:14,08 --> 00:22:15,12 principles hits on 245 00:22:15,13 --> 00:22:18,93 a lot of the elements that are in here and then I'll be able to bring that back 246 00:22:18,94 --> 00:22:25,94 next year to really quantify it. Might. Have to that 247 00:22:25,95 --> 00:22:27,28 because that could give them 248 00:22:27,36 --> 00:22:34,17 a little bit or if you don't. Like. That other piece because 249 00:22:34,18 --> 00:22:39,01 I was looking at the survey information here that it was two outside surveys think 250 00:22:39,02 --> 00:22:42,98 we have no control over when they happen and when they ask so I'm thrilled to hear 251 00:22:42,99 --> 00:22:48,40 that you're integrating macula that's really beneficial. The piece that when we're 252 00:22:48,41 --> 00:22:52,34 talking about grievances and different things it would be helpful to have like 253 00:22:52,35 --> 00:22:58,42 a year and you know when the agreements happened and when it was resolved perhaps 254 00:22:58,43 --> 00:23:02,61 or something like that where it's concrete data and can keep track of how we're 255 00:23:02,62 --> 00:23:08,86 doing it you know with her having lots of grievances. A certain year something back 256 00:23:08,87 --> 00:23:12,74 and I think you know from here on route we're going one year at 257 00:23:12,75 --> 00:23:17,93 a time right so that's pretty good so I could look at this year and I could yeah 258 00:23:17,94 --> 00:23:24,90 report back. That. Can I disable I have 259 00:23:24,91 --> 00:23:26,34 a little difficulty 260 00:23:26,35 --> 00:23:33,63 a lot of these things are further for your timeframe and and. To 261 00:23:33,64 --> 00:23:37,01 me that didn't seem particularly pertinent I mean I don't mean this is 262 00:23:37,02 --> 00:23:37,84 a criticism it's 263 00:23:37,85 --> 00:23:43,34 a surprise time through but you know no lawsuit in the last four years to me seems 264 00:23:43,71 --> 00:23:48,62 well obviously a good thing I don't know how meaningful is looking at such 265 00:23:48,63 --> 00:23:55,49 a to work short timeframe if you see what I'm saying yeah. So I 266 00:23:55,50 --> 00:24:00,45 don't know I mean I don't know that is relevant but if it is relevant you know go 267 00:24:01,14 --> 00:24:01,30 to 268 00:24:01,31 --> 00:24:06,93 a lawsuit in twenty years or whatever but I don't I don't I'm even if it's relevant 269 00:24:07,15 --> 00:24:09,08 but that's funny how we hire the H.R. 270 00:24:09,09 --> 00:24:13,62 Person for years so that's why what makes it right I mean I understand I mean I 271 00:24:13,63 --> 00:24:19,47 understand that's there but I still don't know the. Maybe to compare the time 272 00:24:19,48 --> 00:24:24,22 before that the time. Well when you're saying about the grievances of minutes is 273 00:24:24,36 --> 00:24:26,90 this three a typical number I mean this isn't meant as 274 00:24:26,91 --> 00:24:31,77 a criticism I just don't have the perspective to know if that's. Meaningful. 275 00:24:34,12 --> 00:24:38,81 Is it safe to say you know it's not something I want to hear like. He went back 276 00:24:39,16 --> 00:24:44,06 this gives you an institutional district at this point OK if you can gauge against 277 00:24:44,32 --> 00:24:48,24 future I go to you I'm going back four years OK I guess I'm 278 00:24:48,25 --> 00:24:52,14 a little confused because I thought we were really looking at whether or not we 279 00:24:52,15 --> 00:24:58,47 operate without written personnel rules that not measuring the number of incidences 280 00:24:58,90 --> 00:25:05,71 but we're gauging the fact that we do have written personnel rules that 281 00:25:05,75 --> 00:25:06,80 a B. 282 00:25:06,81 --> 00:25:12,08 Is provided for active handling three it's the one those are those are those go yes 283 00:25:12,09 --> 00:25:16,75 but those are the rules that so he's just talking about so to me I was looking at 284 00:25:17,60 --> 00:25:23,28 this is evidence. And I was focusing less on the number of incidents and more about 285 00:25:23,29 --> 00:25:26,13 the fact that there was a transition time before we had 286 00:25:26,14 --> 00:25:30,27 a chart where things may have been and John you can correct me 287 00:25:30,58 --> 00:25:36,33 a little more loose about personnel and personnel rules and just tightening down 288 00:25:36,34 --> 00:25:40,20 the personnel side of it that's really what I thought we were measuring in these 289 00:25:40,21 --> 00:25:47,13 are just pieces underneath that prior to. The director we have data 290 00:25:47,14 --> 00:25:52,46 of the I don't think it's as good as we have now you know the documentation but I 291 00:25:52,47 --> 00:25:59,34 can benchmark it to you know really any any number I started there because the data 292 00:25:59,35 --> 00:26:05,65 that we have is really the most solid and comprehensive since we hired the H.R. 293 00:26:05,66 --> 00:26:11,97 Person you know. But I can go back. What will maybe you don't need to go back I 294 00:26:11,98 --> 00:26:16,55 mean if we're going to get this report does it end then maybe not maybe every three 295 00:26:16,56 --> 00:26:21,35 years. But at least we'll have something to gain we're saying since the last record 296 00:26:21,36 --> 00:26:25,10 there have been no lawsuits for this sort of big Yeah I mean that might be OK OK 297 00:26:25,14 --> 00:26:30,67 You know I can editor here think you. Can also add in specific dates to I'm happy 298 00:26:30,68 --> 00:26:36,30 to do the. Lessons first. 299 00:26:38,67 --> 00:26:43,63 Question. On. The fly. 300 00:26:47,25 --> 00:26:53,00 In the first of two thousand and eleven eleven twelve so my question is how often 301 00:26:53,01 --> 00:26:59,40 are audits done for organizations of our size. What would be the 302 00:26:59,41 --> 00:27:03,95 reasonable frequency to do these audits and how much they cost there they're both 303 00:27:03,96 --> 00:27:06,82 five thousand dollars. And we've got 304 00:27:06,83 --> 00:27:13,79 a branch to do it the last time. We would be. Applying for another grant to 305 00:27:13,80 --> 00:27:20,21 be able to. Perform another one I guess what I would likely do you were thinking 306 00:27:20,22 --> 00:27:23,67 about that we would ask the people of this bit what's 307 00:27:23,68 --> 00:27:28,92 a reasonable timeline What do you recommend to know for sure what institutions do 308 00:27:29,41 --> 00:27:34,26 other supervisory use of our size how often they run the audit still that's what 309 00:27:34,27 --> 00:27:40,40 the the school would try to garner. But some We've talked about now that we've had 310 00:27:40,41 --> 00:27:44,81 an H.R. Director for a period of time. And we really have 311 00:27:44,82 --> 00:27:51,66 a law or procedures or process easier or much better defined than they were 312 00:27:52,53 --> 00:27:59,43 at it saying OK what can we do it better. So I'm getting the impression because 313 00:27:59,44 --> 00:28:05,65 we had didn't have anything. Prior to this for four years ago. You've implemented 314 00:28:05,86 --> 00:28:09,13 implemented a lot more years and this is 315 00:28:09,14 --> 00:28:14,71 a good time to go back and have this reevaluated or out of the stores that's our 316 00:28:14,72 --> 00:28:16,87 thinking. Here's 317 00:28:17,18 --> 00:28:23,97 a cell phone robber. Still on 318 00:28:24,56 --> 00:28:27,100 number one is quick look to see there for 319 00:28:28,11 --> 00:28:34,23 a question for Cindy or India think around policy governance sorry. When we're what 320 00:28:34,24 --> 00:28:38,59 we're trying to understand the evidence of compliance it's is it to the 321 00:28:38,60 --> 00:28:44,18 interpretation or to the policy. So you're looking for compliance against the super 322 00:28:44,19 --> 00:28:50,41 kind of strict interpretation statement or to the policy itself. We have to accept 323 00:28:50,49 --> 00:28:53,55 the interpretation can't accept that. 324 00:28:58,04 --> 00:29:01,82 Right here. It's 325 00:29:01,83 --> 00:29:08,80 a two step yet. To 326 00:29:08,81 --> 00:29:15,34 get her to go to the process we have different. Expectations. 327 00:29:17,11 --> 00:29:24,05 Down. Front you don't accept it. So we're looking for evidence of 328 00:29:24,26 --> 00:29:25,99 bias against the paper to write. 329 00:29:31,94 --> 00:29:35,00 We want to run the number yeah I'll just you know just really 330 00:29:35,08 --> 00:29:39,56 a question. To 331 00:29:39,57 --> 00:29:46,32 a degree. That we're Yeah I mean what I say is I don't know we've 332 00:29:46,33 --> 00:29:52,89 never reprimanded anybody buddy. I can go back even further. For 333 00:29:52,90 --> 00:29:59,28 years for. No destructive corruptive expressions of her disagree. 334 00:30:03,39 --> 00:30:08,98 To talk about specifics we have two separate occasions. 335 00:30:11,61 --> 00:30:15,71 Over the last four years where we've had over there have been some questions. 336 00:30:19,07 --> 00:30:25,80 About people feeling uncomfortable with how I've dealt with. And then I say to the 337 00:30:25,81 --> 00:30:32,68 tell survey again. Del seventy five seventy six percent of all 338 00:30:32,69 --> 00:30:39,17 staff members to. So they're really good representative group for 339 00:30:39,18 --> 00:30:45,68 Surveys. In the data was really was useful in a lot of it deals with 340 00:30:45,69 --> 00:30:52,43 a chair it is really really things as general as. It was supposed to be of 341 00:30:52,44 --> 00:30:56,17 a very on sort of group or person serving. 342 00:31:01,40 --> 00:31:07,86 There we had. To think of more than the maturity of teachers who are comfortable 343 00:31:07,87 --> 00:31:14,56 about raising issues but that is another question that is inner. All right Michiru 344 00:31:14,57 --> 00:31:20,79 survey to staff members do you feel comfortable sharing your opinions your position 345 00:31:21,68 --> 00:31:26,87 how much you laugh or how often would you give this tells you. This was 346 00:31:26,88 --> 00:31:30,67 a tell survey was something that was put out by the N.E.A. 347 00:31:30,67 --> 00:31:37,60 . And they hired Oh my understanding 348 00:31:37,61 --> 00:31:38,78 was a really sort of 349 00:31:39,15 --> 00:31:46,10 a nonpartizan company to do the survey and the questions are in 350 00:31:46,11 --> 00:31:49,86 my opinion I would use them on another survey because they're that General. 351 00:31:53,11 --> 00:31:55,83 And then we have a we have a it's 352 00:31:55,84 --> 00:32:00,97 a three sixty survey that we've developed with principles that we gave 353 00:32:01,37 --> 00:32:06,65 a few years ago and we're going to be given those again this great initiative team 354 00:32:07,09 --> 00:32:13,78 and I talked about that. And also some school based surveys to the community. 355 00:32:19,68 --> 00:32:26,00 But I think this was more. Like a seven. We allow people to think the evidence is 356 00:32:26,01 --> 00:32:29,26 a. Clear on this one that we. 357 00:32:34,43 --> 00:32:39,25 Had last question about the evidence in this one the last poll is eighty six 358 00:32:39,26 --> 00:32:44,69 percent of the teachers like Question two parties in the staff also take this 359 00:32:44,70 --> 00:32:50,55 survey is it just the teachers think they separated the staff and support staff on 360 00:32:50,56 --> 00:32:56,97 the survey and I didn't see this question wasn't one that was so I said 361 00:32:56,98 --> 00:33:01,83 faculty and I took that to mean licensed teacher but it here could have been used 362 00:33:01,84 --> 00:33:01,91 in 363 00:33:01,92 --> 00:33:08,96 a different way so eighty six percent of the respondents he will say yeah I took 364 00:33:08,97 --> 00:33:14,21 it as teacher and I didn't see this as part of the support staff section I said and 365 00:33:14,52 --> 00:33:21,18 what about the other four percent what's what did you learn about. Their response 366 00:33:22,06 --> 00:33:27,81 Well this was really an average Joe didn't say why it was more just. 367 00:33:29,44 --> 00:33:33,91 There are varying degrees of it was just like it's going to get noticed yet. 368 00:33:36,66 --> 00:33:41,73 You don't know why the other people run stores now and that's why I say it could be 369 00:33:41,74 --> 00:33:41,96 for 370 00:33:41,97 --> 00:33:47,45 a variety of reasons it could be because they don't like to talk in public or you 371 00:33:47,46 --> 00:33:54,01 know for. Them this is the principles that I did look at this. 372 00:33:55,82 --> 00:34:00,83 And we talked about the results and about the fourteen percent why would somebody 373 00:34:00,84 --> 00:34:07,01 maybe not feel comfortable. Expressing there are raising issues or concerns. 374 00:34:12,71 --> 00:34:16,51 I mean I wish it was one hundred the day six is great. 375 00:34:21,79 --> 00:34:25,74 Peculiar because of the sample size was this good examples we've ever gotten. 376 00:34:35,13 --> 00:34:39,95 Well the question not. On the monitoring report. 377 00:34:43,99 --> 00:34:49,64 So. If you want to know no it's not 378 00:34:49,65 --> 00:34:54,64 a question of any other questions you have to do you know. But I just wanted to say 379 00:34:54,65 --> 00:34:58,99 because what we're supposed to be doing this is evaluating the evidence of the 380 00:34:59,00 --> 00:35:04,37 compliance if there's anything that anybody wants thinks needs to be added for next 381 00:35:04,38 --> 00:35:10,01 time I can't think of anything I thought that was good evidence but. I think that's 382 00:35:10,02 --> 00:35:15,44 a tough one without interfering teachers. Or something. 383 00:35:17,11 --> 00:35:20,16 To talk about the whole thing in general which is just that evidence of compliance 384 00:35:20,17 --> 00:35:27,05 for the that number two. Zero the other I mean another way 385 00:35:27,06 --> 00:35:34,00 to get evidence is to have. Any please leave the interviews but. That's 386 00:35:34,01 --> 00:35:39,14 another way it's going to be here the kids are. Young they were there who they've 387 00:35:39,15 --> 00:35:44,80 been there more consistent now here because they were probably very hard. 388 00:35:46,48 --> 00:35:51,56 To. Get and that's what we've faced to some people just based on the. 389 00:35:54,26 --> 00:35:54,37 It's 390 00:35:54,38 --> 00:36:04,33 a good idea but we will be tracking that too it's good to. Others 391 00:36:04,33 --> 00:36:11,12 . Who are hearing them and we 392 00:36:11,13 --> 00:36:18,10 felt for the. Vote on the motion I think that I wanted to just question about the 393 00:36:18,14 --> 00:36:22,02 motion because under our draft process there's 394 00:36:22,03 --> 00:36:28,86 a specific type of motion that are supposed to make. So and we did this last 395 00:36:28,87 --> 00:36:34,08 time and so I wanted to be consistent but I couldn't find it right away and so. We 396 00:36:34,09 --> 00:36:37,95 have to when you are clear we have to say that the monitoring ports have been 397 00:36:37,96 --> 00:36:42,52 determined to meet the record requirements of reasonable interpretation sufficient 398 00:36:42,53 --> 00:36:48,96 evidence so we have to ask for the motion that says that the monitoring report has 399 00:36:48,97 --> 00:36:50,38 been bred provides 400 00:36:50,39 --> 00:36:54,75 a reasonable interpretation of the policy and evidence of compliance with that 401 00:36:54,76 --> 00:37:01,69 reasonable interpretation so most second. For two we went to the court of order 402 00:37:02,23 --> 00:37:06,37 to be sorry to disagree because it is already going to be 403 00:37:06,38 --> 00:37:10,07 a good day yes but I just wanted to say that before we go any further down there 404 00:37:10,08 --> 00:37:14,72 wanted to remind us that that's the one we really wanted to send So how do we how 405 00:37:14,73 --> 00:37:15,98 would you like to offer 406 00:37:15,99 --> 00:37:21,46 a friendly amendment already says what they said the there is no substitute. 407 00:37:24,21 --> 00:37:29,25 For your first substitute. Thank you what he said before. 408 00:37:31,00 --> 00:37:36,67 So are we calling it every placement substitute or amended motion substitute motion 409 00:37:36,79 --> 00:37:43,63 substitute that says that the monitoring report two point two has been read 410 00:37:43,98 --> 00:37:44,41 provides 411 00:37:44,42 --> 00:37:48,94 a reasonable interpretation of the policy and evidence of compliance with that 412 00:37:48,95 --> 00:37:54,80 reasonable interpretation. Except. Friendlies the two. 413 00:37:57,04 --> 00:38:03,58 You're OK with that Roger. And I'm saying that also for our secretary here too as 414 00:38:03,59 --> 00:38:10,45 well. So in that case I guess then I'm moving in back 415 00:38:10,46 --> 00:38:17,37 seconding. Just amending it to mean the original motion. That 416 00:38:17,38 --> 00:38:24,37 you just modify the second is that it was OK. For her who made the orders with. 417 00:38:26,38 --> 00:38:33,30 John made the original one OK so that's why Yeah. That's why I'm. Trying to 418 00:38:33,31 --> 00:38:39,46 claw. Or fired here so let's just then I have made the amended motion and Breck has 419 00:38:39,47 --> 00:38:45,85 seconded it that sounds reasonable. And then further discussion because. 420 00:38:49,31 --> 00:38:53,54 I said one of this question number three zero. Point three number three just 421 00:38:53,55 --> 00:39:00,54 a quick one John to. Your interpretation of an emergency situation is that taken 422 00:39:00,55 --> 00:39:05,12 from any kind of standard definition or is that your personal interpretation of. 423 00:39:06,35 --> 00:39:12,50 The both I referred to. Because I think you could go both 424 00:39:13,23 --> 00:39:19,22 so I've heard the Essex the interpretation and. 425 00:39:20,27 --> 00:39:27,27 Choose to live there the sensually thing. Would be my position as well 426 00:39:27,28 --> 00:39:34,25 that's what emergency situation is. I think that I also 427 00:39:34,37 --> 00:39:38,72 saw it. Also another definition. 428 00:39:43,58 --> 00:39:48,19 In both the audit that we had played for those who believe in. 429 00:39:50,37 --> 00:39:57,24 The. Department of Public Safety. School Resource Center think that's 430 00:39:57,25 --> 00:40:03,32 where they got it as well. Seems very flawed. In my perspective. 431 00:40:05,12 --> 00:40:11,12 That's what we should use. I'm curious as to why you feel it's brought. Any 432 00:40:11,13 --> 00:40:14,89 condition that threatens the wellbeing of students at home for you mean the 433 00:40:14,90 --> 00:40:21,18 requirement that you need the actual policy Yeah yeah it is Harry Potter that's OK 434 00:40:21,19 --> 00:40:27,82 I get that. Any condition that threatens the safety and well being of 435 00:40:27,83 --> 00:40:32,77 students and employees is considered emergency situation. That is to me. 436 00:40:35,92 --> 00:40:42,71 So somebody. Yeah and that's I mean how would you know now. 437 00:40:45,65 --> 00:40:50,02 Folks believe the schools today are based on that and their response that the 438 00:40:50,03 --> 00:40:54,22 schools they have different they have different responses to different situations 439 00:40:54,23 --> 00:40:58,55 and they make correct about that yeah but I'm thinking like if there's 440 00:40:58,56 --> 00:41:04,75 a tornado emergency situation if there is only intruder emergency situation 441 00:41:05,55 --> 00:41:10,73 if there is. If there is a fire or if there's 442 00:41:10,74 --> 00:41:14,52 a bus that goes off the road kids are hurt if. 443 00:41:18,54 --> 00:41:25,36 You know they're there. That would stray dogs and you know even 444 00:41:25,40 --> 00:41:30,49 going to that extent that are roaming around that's one of the ones I thought about 445 00:41:30,50 --> 00:41:37,11 OK I would consider that an emergency situation and we need to deal with that. So 446 00:41:37,12 --> 00:41:43,46 it's intended to be very brief. Yes. To really focus on some of the well being of 447 00:41:43,47 --> 00:41:50,32 people are they going to get hurt. But I think that I have to agree then with Kevin 448 00:41:50,33 --> 00:41:54,28 I don't see where you're going that the problem I often have is because I'm working 449 00:41:54,29 --> 00:41:58,76 under the Vermont's whole crisis guy to kind of automatically go to exactly what 450 00:41:58,77 --> 00:42:03,41 he's saying because I've been in it and lived it but the way that it's written 451 00:42:03,81 --> 00:42:04,22 there are 452 00:42:04,23 --> 00:42:10,61 a lot of. Well this is supposed to be foreseen forseeable emergency situations. 453 00:42:11,66 --> 00:42:15,35 But it does sound like there could be you know when you said the thing about the 454 00:42:15,36 --> 00:42:21,71 stray dogs there's probably nothing written for that so how do you. How do you have 455 00:42:21,72 --> 00:42:25,15 people prepared for something that they've never experienced before you can only go 456 00:42:25,16 --> 00:42:29,16 back to some of your basic things about your emergency response and have 457 00:42:29,17 --> 00:42:33,33 a sort of chain of command as to who you go to it cetera that where you were more 458 00:42:33,34 --> 00:42:38,91 concerned about is that it might be really broadly interpreted to be. You know the 459 00:42:38,95 --> 00:42:42,90 color of the walls that they've painted is threatening to be sitting there well 460 00:42:42,91 --> 00:42:46,41 below the police or something I guess where I was going was Big sure that 461 00:42:46,42 --> 00:42:50,54 understood that where it was coming from and confirm that it was intended to be 462 00:42:50,55 --> 00:42:53,22 brought because it was actually curious if we had 463 00:42:53,23 --> 00:42:59,03 a great history. All the emergency situations we had the last year. I mean if they 464 00:42:59,04 --> 00:43:05,91 really are you know. Crises type of thing then how many occur but 465 00:43:05,92 --> 00:43:10,88 if it's stray dogs in the playground I'm not sure that that's something that we 466 00:43:10,89 --> 00:43:16,42 would be tracking and following up on an. Individual event basis just trying to get 467 00:43:16,43 --> 00:43:20,61 a feel for how how limited this this policies covering 468 00:43:20,62 --> 00:43:25,79 a real problem. And it sounds like it's really you know give you an example every 469 00:43:25,80 --> 00:43:26,03 year 470 00:43:26,04 --> 00:43:31,71 a good two or three calls from the principal worry about ending repairing areas called 471 00:43:32,61 --> 00:43:39,58 very mad. They're feeling people might be unsafe threatened and so we 472 00:43:39,59 --> 00:43:40,95 have we have 473 00:43:40,96 --> 00:43:48,03 a process that we fall to deal with that we have really tracking. Things 474 00:43:48,04 --> 00:43:52,58 like fire. When we have had 475 00:43:53,56 --> 00:43:59,73 a tornado wind event stream wind event you know things like that we have. Gas leaks 476 00:43:59,73 --> 00:44:05,61 . That we so those are things that we can track but there are some things that we 477 00:44:05,62 --> 00:44:12,60 haven't that I would consider that are inert or gods but 478 00:44:12,61 --> 00:44:15,70 that maybe people wouldn't see as extreme. 479 00:44:22,04 --> 00:44:28,97 So I guess just to close us what out my for purposes the. Thing for me I 480 00:44:28,98 --> 00:44:35,01 would have expected emergency situations to be named situations that occur. You 481 00:44:35,02 --> 00:44:39,38 know if any occurred we would know about them it would happen we would do some kind 482 00:44:39,39 --> 00:44:44,73 of analysis after the fact of the turnaround did we do do we respond adequately and 483 00:44:44,74 --> 00:44:51,41 that would demonstrate or not evidence here into the box. Really 484 00:44:51,82 --> 00:44:57,09 strange yes. Oh yes correct you would be reporting at N.P.R. 485 00:44:57,10 --> 00:44:57,32 After 486 00:44:57,33 --> 00:45:02,92 a year of say. We have three emergency situations. Here's the deal they were handle 487 00:45:02,93 --> 00:45:08,52 adequately. Local law and order one of them we're going to handle very well here's 488 00:45:08,53 --> 00:45:12,13 what we're going to do. So I would look at it 489 00:45:12,17 --> 00:45:17,67 a little more. Down to the situation as opposed to. Each Other. 490 00:45:19,26 --> 00:45:21,29 And put them might be 491 00:45:21,33 --> 00:45:27,01 a number of situations that arise that. One person like Percy but yet not the other 492 00:45:27,02 --> 00:45:31,72 so we're asking John to report on something that's not clear we'll say well why 493 00:45:31,73 --> 00:45:35,27 didn't you report on that issue because some people might consider that an 494 00:45:35,28 --> 00:45:38,71 emergency so might be appropriate to find 495 00:45:38,72 --> 00:45:44,06 a reference that finds emergency situations if used. In Burma in 496 00:45:44,07 --> 00:45:47,05 a remote schools and use that as our definition rumors. 497 00:45:51,17 --> 00:45:57,08 Please don't. Come back to the whole thing altogether and we start getting into 498 00:45:57,12 --> 00:46:01,47 what we define as emergency situation as opposed to what the administration has 499 00:46:01,57 --> 00:46:06,69 done for the situation right we're going on what were the policy governance says. 500 00:46:07,74 --> 00:46:11,85 That's what I'm not saying that we define the situation I say that John should find 501 00:46:11,86 --> 00:46:16,30 a reference that he feels is appropriate we defined emergency situations we know 502 00:46:16,31 --> 00:46:21,55 that we can hear any and every case and then he has to deal with Iran school crisis 503 00:46:21,56 --> 00:46:28,38 guy. And if we don't agree with the interpretation then we can further define in 504 00:46:28,39 --> 00:46:34,47 the polls you know if we do want to take action if we didn't think that there was 505 00:46:34,48 --> 00:46:40,95 a ship that was reasonable we could say no we're to see situations to find out help 506 00:46:40,96 --> 00:46:47,20 us or we can debate whether we feel like it's reasonable. But not giving that point 507 00:46:47,21 --> 00:46:52,97 defining the situation here not the territory in the polls right right but it's not 508 00:46:52,98 --> 00:46:59,37 in the polls right. The way that the interpretation is today he's interpreted it 509 00:46:59,38 --> 00:47:04,39 broadly I think we've established that. I think there are some of us myself 510 00:47:04,40 --> 00:47:10,19 included that would prefer it to be more to the troops when they were. You know 511 00:47:11,05 --> 00:47:14,88 everybody would be clear of what's been the situation it's not going to have these 512 00:47:14,89 --> 00:47:20,73 interpreting it and the evidence supports his interpretation. QUESTION Or is it 513 00:47:20,74 --> 00:47:27,23 reasonable interpret it the way it is or not. And. So I just wanted to say that 514 00:47:27,24 --> 00:47:31,33 something you said kind of triggered an idea in my mind and I think it was I think 515 00:47:31,34 --> 00:47:36,81 it's an interesting one is that we do have you know that in terms of the non-school 516 00:47:36,82 --> 00:47:41,13 crisis guide we do have the the drills and the rehearsals that everyone does to be 517 00:47:41,20 --> 00:47:46,96 as prepared as they can but the idea that you sort of reconvene after the crisis 518 00:47:46,97 --> 00:47:52,64 and figure out how well everyone was prepared how well you know what the problems 519 00:47:52,65 --> 00:47:59,08 were what the what stopped you from executing it. Even more flawlessly as it were 520 00:47:59,33 --> 00:48:03,33 seems really interesting is that something that already goes on John you know the 521 00:48:03,34 --> 00:48:10,21 thing. We keep briefing the thing that threatens the health safety of the safety 522 00:48:10,22 --> 00:48:17,04 will be people it could possibly be used as evidence next time and I 523 00:48:17,05 --> 00:48:21,91 think the the policy is forseeable I guess I mentioned some that are on forseeable 524 00:48:21,95 --> 00:48:27,91 Russia. But then that's the way I look at emergency situation because you don't. 525 00:48:29,47 --> 00:48:33,90 It's hard to predict what every emergency situation is going to look like what it's 526 00:48:33,91 --> 00:48:34,84 going to be we have 527 00:48:34,85 --> 00:48:40,69 a contingency for on forseeable emergencies. I mean I think we should we should 528 00:48:40,70 --> 00:48:45,82 happen be brights we have something in place for any sort of hers. 529 00:48:47,89 --> 00:48:52,90 That was my intent. And I think you know that when you have those unforeseeable 530 00:48:52,91 --> 00:48:58,41 ones and people respond reasonably within what they were trained with you look back 531 00:48:58,42 --> 00:49:02,43 on and you go well we did pretty good given the fact that you know we didn't know 532 00:49:02,76 --> 00:49:04,15 right X.Y. And Z. 533 00:49:04,26 --> 00:49:07,23 And those are the kinds of things that you come back later and say wow we were 534 00:49:07,24 --> 00:49:11,04 pretty prepared that training that we did in the in the beginning of the school 535 00:49:11,05 --> 00:49:16,06 year with the mandatory or whatever affected change because the person said Oh well 536 00:49:16,07 --> 00:49:17,40 I was told to do X. Y. And Z. 537 00:49:17,41 --> 00:49:23,50 And I did it with that kind of thing. So I give you some examples if you'll walk 538 00:49:23,51 --> 00:49:29,20 over but I don't have to the things that happened later because you could see the 539 00:49:29,21 --> 00:49:36,17 forseeable how we deal with. John I would just recommend for the future your second 540 00:49:36,18 --> 00:49:43,06 to last bullet theory has not received any planes or. Maybe 541 00:49:43,07 --> 00:49:45,04 that's where you know 542 00:49:45,54 --> 00:49:52,30 a deep breathe right. Well. You know you could put in that and 543 00:49:52,31 --> 00:49:58,78 I think that's where that would. Take the. Food service or go. 544 00:49:59,92 --> 00:50:03,71 For my. Things. 545 00:50:07,20 --> 00:50:12,33 But it will be one of the things is does. Give the poor. 546 00:50:14,51 --> 00:50:17,70 That didn't service that we're prepared we have 547 00:50:17,71 --> 00:50:22,68 a plan there's an emergency. In there we've practiced this both. 548 00:50:26,00 --> 00:50:31,80 Locally they were there admin team or we go through scenarios and that we practice 549 00:50:31,81 --> 00:50:37,08 you know what we would do if this happened and what has happened what will we do 550 00:50:37,09 --> 00:50:43,74 differently. And that we're using your best practices to 551 00:50:43,75 --> 00:50:50,68 define what that looks like. To the rescue rehearse with you and they 552 00:50:50,83 --> 00:50:56,57 are part of this whole. We we are they have. 553 00:50:58,15 --> 00:51:04,05 In the past it's not something that we've done. Early in every school but they 554 00:51:04,06 --> 00:51:09,05 really meet with the WE HAVE A There are a police officer as they please 555 00:51:09,06 --> 00:51:15,64 a person that we be with you only and we have had several run crews 556 00:51:15,65 --> 00:51:21,85 particularly at the high school with the personal in the code of training and 557 00:51:22,47 --> 00:51:29,41 we've shared what our plans are. So we can be consistent and have 558 00:51:29,42 --> 00:51:34,86 people prepared. That's on the checklist of those on the checklist. 559 00:51:36,45 --> 00:51:37,30 And I just want to save 560 00:51:37,31 --> 00:51:41,63 a farly we do at this up is that this is another good example for me 561 00:51:42,01 --> 00:51:47,21 a phenomenal amount of information that we didn't used to discuss at all in terms 562 00:51:47,22 --> 00:51:54,14 of being knowledgeable about this level of detail of our superintendent's job 563 00:51:55,11 --> 00:52:00,44 and the things that he's responsible for. And that are happening behind the scenes 564 00:52:00,45 --> 00:52:05,03 that just was not a topic that came up in previous years even at M.M.U. 565 00:52:05,55 --> 00:52:10,46 In terms of what we discussed. So to be able to evaluate how he's doing. And 566 00:52:10,47 --> 00:52:15,39 understanding all of these pieces behind the scenes I think to me is on is really 567 00:52:15,40 --> 00:52:22,07 critical. And impressive. Well with that 568 00:52:22,08 --> 00:52:28,61 said. We have the amended motion out there 569 00:52:29,14 --> 00:52:32,73 I was just replaced. That there is a bit there is 570 00:52:32,74 --> 00:52:38,36 a motion on the floor that needs to be voted on yes. It's ready. 571 00:52:39,91 --> 00:52:46,29 So we had to move to him and we've moved from amend the motion. We substitute yet 572 00:52:46,30 --> 00:52:52,18 not assigning the word that's all there. You've got it right Pat OK for two point 573 00:52:52,19 --> 00:52:53,19 two we're ready. 574 00:53:01,23 --> 00:53:06,16 Hi John I'm just I'm just looking at the second Robert's rules to make sure that 575 00:53:06,17 --> 00:53:13,16 we're doing the show OK OK thank you very much for going. To that believe we need 576 00:53:13,17 --> 00:53:13,48 to make 577 00:53:13,49 --> 00:53:20,37 a motion to move to amend. The original. Motion if we want to might 578 00:53:20,38 --> 00:53:26,63 to modify the wording of the question of Dave's apparent here nobody knows the good 579 00:53:26,64 --> 00:53:33,20 as you just wrote if you have the same restrictions you don't need. To vote on that 580 00:53:33,58 --> 00:53:36,07 if you had an amended motion you would this is 581 00:53:36,08 --> 00:53:42,87 a substitute so you can just go ahead and said. Thank you do what I 582 00:53:42,88 --> 00:53:46,33 did this doesn't have the hole with some distance up the basics but I did this for 583 00:53:46,34 --> 00:53:51,66 like twelve years you can't and I trust that a very empty All right Michael 584 00:53:51,67 --> 00:53:56,13 a great resource so we're all set that's the right so all those in favor of the 585 00:53:56,14 --> 00:53:59,03 motion to signify by saying I will write 586 00:53:59,17 --> 00:54:04,04 a post. Sixteen abstentions think. 587 00:54:06,10 --> 00:54:10,31 The ice have been the most curious Thank you John thank you great feedback thank 588 00:54:10,32 --> 00:54:15,53 you for thanks for putting up with us this isn't easy to transition it's. 589 00:54:17,34 --> 00:54:22,48 Just going to go down the moniker for through your stuff you know. I've got 590 00:54:22,49 --> 00:54:29,38 a copy of it but in my office. We're on to the next item on 591 00:54:29,39 --> 00:54:34,80 the agenda. To defend the gender. Entertain 592 00:54:34,81 --> 00:54:41,54 a motion to approve the. Consent the gender presented so moved starting on. 593 00:54:43,57 --> 00:54:50,10 You Tube That's why we have even the leader. Was to. Say 594 00:54:50,48 --> 00:54:57,28 All right. All right. So the minutes corrections thoughts 595 00:54:57,29 --> 00:54:59,34 comments regarding the minute. 596 00:55:08,36 --> 00:55:10,21 I want to say that we were very lucky that we had 597 00:55:10,22 --> 00:55:15,30 a substitute take where. We were very fortunate and and she did 598 00:55:15,31 --> 00:55:17,33 a wonderful job of keeping up with us. 599 00:55:22,36 --> 00:55:22,84 Is very. 600 00:55:29,54 --> 00:55:36,52 I just want that I think maybe it's just the be on page three. The 601 00:55:37,40 --> 00:55:43,49 resolution thinking her. Ford Field look at paragraph. 602 00:55:44,88 --> 00:55:45,91 Clearly defined 603 00:55:45,97 --> 00:55:52,93 a process where. There was taken in order to for her to 604 00:55:52,94 --> 00:55:58,16 get a point that. I found that to me I found her graph 605 00:55:58,17 --> 00:56:04,47 a little confusing but others. You know that if they do that and I'm fine with. It 606 00:56:04,48 --> 00:56:09,72 we had to take Michael's verbiage word for word are not one in terms of the motion 607 00:56:10,18 --> 00:56:11,94 right and so are you that it's 608 00:56:11,95 --> 00:56:17,35 a minute clearly reflecting OK I have to scroll down to it my computer's being 609 00:56:17,36 --> 00:56:19,10 we're. Getting there. 610 00:56:41,11 --> 00:56:45,29 Because. He's so young. 611 00:57:01,12 --> 00:57:07,54 Do you feel anybody the party could be just me but don't I deny. Having not 612 00:57:07,55 --> 00:57:12,66 attended that meeting it seemed perfectly clear clear to me Yami. On the left of 613 00:57:13,06 --> 00:57:13,58 the left 614 00:57:13,59 --> 00:57:21,09 a great deal you can't really do that. But you know one was missing. There's 615 00:57:21,10 --> 00:57:26,19 a word missing here just on the board does not have you hold this it's ass maybe 616 00:57:26,23 --> 00:57:30,63 action and Stevie like not because they were talking to the subsequent ons right 617 00:57:31,31 --> 00:57:32,14 that right had 618 00:57:32,15 --> 00:57:38,17 a little clarity I mean I think the intent was to ply disappear but maybe just to 619 00:57:38,18 --> 00:57:42,41 put in the word action. Or appointment you know. 620 00:57:49,48 --> 00:57:56,41 That's. Their other direction your comment thoughts regarding the minute I have one 621 00:57:56,42 --> 00:58:03,31 comment yes let me cetera in minutes. I'm not quite sure what that means in 622 00:58:03,35 --> 00:58:06,81 future minutes not the future we will use that. 623 00:58:11,04 --> 00:58:12,48 I think that's a that's definitely 624 00:58:12,49 --> 00:58:18,04 a fair thing to to say that's an interesting comment and I think that usually 625 00:58:18,05 --> 00:58:19,85 doesn't come up and again this was 626 00:58:19,86 --> 00:58:25,75 a substitute no taker so we'll try to remember that for future ones but the point. 627 00:58:31,68 --> 00:58:37,48 For the center of the. People are you know. 628 00:58:38,80 --> 00:58:43,77 It's you know it other comments. I just want to make the comment that this is 629 00:58:43,78 --> 00:58:48,05 a different style of minute taking than what we're used to than what we've done in 630 00:58:48,06 --> 00:58:49,86 the past it's 631 00:58:49,87 --> 00:58:55,59 a style that some boards use. And I think that I always like to remember that these 632 00:58:55,60 --> 00:59:00,67 are minutes not seconds and we do have our video if people really needed to go back 633 00:59:00,68 --> 00:59:06,07 and look back and say exactly what the facial expressions were or what the details 634 00:59:06,08 --> 00:59:10,39 were of the comment that the person this is supposed to give you the gist of the 635 00:59:10,40 --> 00:59:17,24 conversation. And must talk about who is here what motions are made it cetera. 636 00:59:19,58 --> 00:59:26,37 So that being said. I think it and again thank you Margo thank you for very 637 00:59:26,38 --> 00:59:32,28 much appreciating often because my minutes when it looked really different. OK All 638 00:59:32,29 --> 00:59:39,14 right. OK All those in favor of the motion signify by saying I write the 639 00:59:39,15 --> 00:59:42,17 post abstain abstain state. 640 00:59:46,94 --> 00:59:52,14 The eyes have been in the motion Kerry. Committee an advisory. 641 00:59:55,05 --> 00:59:57,86 Committee report policy is meeting tomorrow. 642 01:00:02,61 --> 01:00:06,28 And then I'll probably have to have something on the on the next meeting to talk 643 01:00:06,29 --> 01:00:12,99 about. Finance anything you want to chime in on. But it's committee has not met 644 01:00:13,00 --> 01:00:17,18 since our last forty days after the meeting 645 01:00:17,19 --> 01:00:24,08 a story straight ahead and. We get started by doubt to our. State 646 01:00:24,09 --> 01:00:30,85 representatives to attend the meeting on December fifteenth. And we have at least 647 01:00:30,86 --> 01:00:34,64 one of them will be attending school going to. Have 648 01:00:34,65 --> 01:00:39,87 a dialogue with representatives about challenges and process that there are with 649 01:00:39,88 --> 01:00:46,09 overworking. Thanks Jim. 650 01:00:48,41 --> 01:00:52,50 Negotiations the. Meeting Minutes. 651 01:00:55,63 --> 01:01:01,66 And proposal six. On the website my correct on we're up to date we did. 652 01:01:03,14 --> 01:01:09,66 We did have our first meeting with the support staff and were able to establish 653 01:01:09,67 --> 01:01:15,12 ground rules with them as well as. The true meeting date. 654 01:01:20,23 --> 01:01:25,72 But again you go to the website if you look for specifics on what's going on with 655 01:01:25,73 --> 01:01:32,62 the gauche Asian. Community Engagement. Our 656 01:01:32,72 --> 01:01:39,71 survey is community surveys done and we're working on setting meetings for dates 657 01:01:39,81 --> 01:01:45,83 to meet with groups in the communities over the next few months you have 658 01:01:45,84 --> 01:01:47,75 a community group that you think would be 659 01:01:47,76 --> 01:01:52,71 a good one for us to go meet these let me know. We're just trying to start 660 01:01:52,72 --> 01:01:59,05 dialogues and get people's face to face feedback on what they think are. Long term 661 01:01:59,06 --> 01:02:06,01 plans long term goals for the district. Not to 662 01:02:06,13 --> 01:02:08,42 put you on the spot Arriba Bre may be 663 01:02:08,43 --> 01:02:14,76 a good contact as to some committees in Richmond that. I think you know you could 664 01:02:14,77 --> 01:02:18,26 possibly engage with so it's just where he's going to 665 01:02:18,72 --> 01:02:20,84 a very active member of our community for 666 01:02:20,85 --> 01:02:26,62 a long long time so. I'm not I can. 667 01:02:28,47 --> 01:02:34,68 Just see that way given how much you've got done. OK. 668 01:02:36,52 --> 01:02:42,69 Other business. Wanted to check in with school board members who. 669 01:02:43,84 --> 01:02:47,70 Terms are expiring. Have 670 01:02:47,71 --> 01:02:53,72 a town meeting in March twenty seventh he. See where we stand we know where Dave. 671 01:02:54,83 --> 01:03:01,78 Is. What we aspire in terms we know where you got by if you 672 01:03:01,79 --> 01:03:07,07 just mean expiring terminus you. Are supposed to focus on the term I started which 673 01:03:07,08 --> 01:03:11,15 they said to her suddenly. Other board members whose. 674 01:03:15,22 --> 01:03:20,52 Have you thought about it and that we don't need to you know I guess I just want to 675 01:03:20,53 --> 01:03:26,13 bring it to your attention. We would like to know sooner or later though just so. 676 01:03:27,56 --> 01:03:33,12 Thank you so whatever you can get sick. We want to go with accurately pursue 677 01:03:33,13 --> 01:03:39,74 replacements arms thank you some signatures I wish I could help you out last. 678 01:03:41,00 --> 01:03:46,23 Breath don't people feel comfortable with the quick short hands of people who 679 01:03:46,33 --> 01:03:52,28 time's expired but are running again it was made that decision I mean just the 680 01:03:52,29 --> 01:03:59,04 state. Thanks to you. For information is headed 681 01:03:59,57 --> 01:04:05,43 right for you know if you don't receive thank you very much thank you. But it was 682 01:04:05,44 --> 01:04:07,93 a second for sure Steve K. 683 01:04:07,93 --> 01:04:14,10 . I thought he remembered fit I just wanted to say something because in four point 684 01:04:14,11 --> 01:04:21,02 one governing style four point one point four continual board development one of 685 01:04:21,03 --> 01:04:25,79 the pieces that we're supposed to do is active recruits. New board candidates is 686 01:04:25,80 --> 01:04:31,90 needed. Because you had read that yeah I know I remembered it yeah so I know OK 687 01:04:31,91 --> 01:04:37,46 good. So that's why I think it's important that we have we bring it up that we 688 01:04:37,47 --> 01:04:43,29 bring it to the front so. Great in there and so that people can be thinking of. 689 01:04:46,34 --> 01:04:50,77 A statement was made to be rude she does not harm an excellent. 690 01:04:53,36 --> 01:04:58,77 First you know that was her do you have any idea that you can be right that's 691 01:04:58,78 --> 01:05:05,44 a. Reasonable interpretation that's all for. You 692 01:05:05,85 --> 01:05:11,39 so. You know certainly if there's anything I think that needs from the rest of the 693 01:05:11,40 --> 01:05:17,03 board as well. We can assist with they please let us know. 694 01:05:19,42 --> 01:05:24,29 And so. I'm sure we're going to find 695 01:05:24,30 --> 01:05:30,77 a tremendous candidate for any big shoes to fill the day so. That's Current think 696 01:05:31,11 --> 01:05:36,15 so. Let's see there were 697 01:05:36,16 --> 01:05:38,86 a couple of things that came from the B.S. 698 01:05:38,86 --> 01:05:45,58 . The. When was. The 699 01:05:45,59 --> 01:05:52,41 hearings that are going on regarding. School choice and my 700 01:05:53,24 --> 01:05:59,01 oh the state board rules on independent schools and the State Board of Education is 701 01:05:59,02 --> 01:05:59,76 taking more of 702 01:05:59,77 --> 01:06:06,12 a stand I wasn't I don't know how much to bring up here I'm I'm active in that as 703 01:06:06,13 --> 01:06:12,99 part of being involved in just legislative. Issues. And I wasn't sure 704 01:06:13,00 --> 01:06:19,52 what people's level of awareness was about the number of independent schools we 705 01:06:19,53 --> 01:06:25,46 have that do not need to meet the same requirements that public schools do but yet 706 01:06:25,47 --> 01:06:30,25 share the same funds through the tuition vouchers that we call the announced to 707 01:06:30,26 --> 01:06:36,87 wish an RE So they are doing hearings but they're only doing them in the hotbed of 708 01:06:37,05 --> 01:06:43,27 independent school areas which are manned. Esther and St Johnsbury And so I'm 709 01:06:43,28 --> 01:06:48,40 hearing from folks who are still are struggling are not struggling with public 710 01:06:48,41 --> 01:06:53,49 school budgets and feeling that independent schools should be as accountable to the 711 01:06:53,50 --> 01:06:59,15 voters and to the people who the taxpayers you know your voice would be welcome on 712 01:06:59,16 --> 01:07:02,21 that so there will be probably a lot of there will be 713 01:07:02,22 --> 01:07:07,18 a lot of action about it there will be articles there will be statements coming out 714 01:07:07,19 --> 01:07:13,47 I personally am and getting involved in it because I feel strongly. And so I'm not 715 01:07:13,48 --> 01:07:19,38 sure how other people what their level of interest or awareness is. So if anybody 716 01:07:19,39 --> 01:07:24,83 has any questions I'm happy to answer them or send people for information if they 717 01:07:24,84 --> 01:07:30,60 so desire. Right now the biggest issue is that it may be 718 01:07:30,61 --> 01:07:36,50 a civil rights issue because the announced tuition vouchers for any particular town 719 01:07:36,51 --> 01:07:43,23 can be used to schools that selective. Discriminate or certainly choose and 720 01:07:43,24 --> 01:07:48,55 therefore discriminate by their admission practices. For certain protected classes 721 01:07:48,56 --> 01:07:49,43 of individuals. 722 01:07:56,48 --> 01:07:59,86 Thank you Diane and then the other one with the news 723 01:07:59,87 --> 01:08:06,87 a public hearing going on. On the. Draft rules of back forty or going 724 01:08:06,88 --> 01:08:13,52 to structure. The number twelve barrier for PM So if you have any. 725 01:08:15,70 --> 01:08:18,76 Comment for thoughts regarding that you can share them. 726 01:08:23,48 --> 01:08:30,28 With Donna who Savard with the agency of education. And I think 727 01:08:30,58 --> 01:08:36,80 Paul gave some input when we were at our regional meeting towards that. But we're 728 01:08:36,81 --> 01:08:40,75 not sure how that's really that's really going to go anywhere alternative 729 01:08:40,76 --> 01:08:46,05 structures and we are an alternative structure and so. At that the way we are now. 730 01:08:47,97 --> 01:08:54,77 And so we may or may not be allowed to keep it. And then 731 01:08:55,50 --> 01:09:00,67 just and therefore I guess we're for John than that but the Richmond County clerk 732 01:09:00,68 --> 01:09:01,03 put out 733 01:09:01,04 --> 01:09:06,18 a notice today about the interim report. Or its deadline of January twentieth so it 734 01:09:06,19 --> 01:09:12,52 will be. That's all starting up for. That time years coming 735 01:09:12,85 --> 01:09:19,79 yeah so if you. Are right that was 736 01:09:19,80 --> 01:09:26,11 my other business with anybody else so. That was I think it is the. State where the 737 01:09:26,12 --> 01:09:30,90 education very. Very next meeting. 738 01:09:33,11 --> 01:09:40,08 Is on the. Thank teeth we're heading up to the other end of the district but 739 01:09:40,73 --> 01:09:45,71 no central. School. Six P.M. 740 01:09:45,78 --> 01:09:48,47 Tour six thirty will be the meeting. 741 01:09:53,55 --> 01:10:00,19 What with the lovely monitoring. Do we have to remove the monitoring for. 742 01:10:01,30 --> 01:10:05,35 The Do we have one now I don't have what I thought you said we now know that we 743 01:10:05,36 --> 01:10:06,11 should be getting 744 01:10:06,17 --> 01:10:13,55 a but your vote on recommendation Ah. Budget 745 01:10:13,56 --> 01:10:18,57 right there. Is that that's what I have that right because you'll have met. 746 01:10:20,70 --> 01:10:24,07 Him the way we have a check to vote to look bring 747 01:10:24,08 --> 01:10:31,03 a budget to the floor. And. Have been. Meeting OK. 748 01:10:32,04 --> 01:10:36,84 So that should that should be our tickets on the are just looking for. You know 749 01:10:37,08 --> 01:10:42,39 it's like. You know OK it's certainly not the other agenda items or anything else 750 01:10:42,40 --> 01:10:47,42 anybody policy may need some time but I'll let you get back to not like the stuff I 751 01:10:47,43 --> 01:10:54,40 keep but if I need some time. Every. So that serves and then we have 752 01:10:54,41 --> 01:10:57,94 the other upcoming meetings listed at the bottom of this John do we have any. 753 01:10:59,08 --> 01:11:05,80 Reason for executive session tonight I have. No you know already. Moved to ensure 754 01:11:06,20 --> 01:11:11,17 that right all those in favor of the motion signify by standing up then heading out 755 01:11:11,18 --> 01:11:15,11 thank you everybody safe travels home. Thanks to your buddy her.